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Post by Kane on May 27, 2013 18:09:46 GMT 11
For the past few days I've been treating ich in one of my tanks. A couple of serpae tetras were lost in the process but now I don't see much evidence of the disease in my tank. The problem now however is that my fish started getting cloudy eyes. I took every fish from the tank and put them in a quarantine tank by themselves (8 rainbow fish, 2 angel fish, 2 bristlenose & 7 serpae tetras) so now the infected tank has no fish in it. Water conditions are fine besides the temperature being higher than normal (28°C) as an assistant in the ich removal. What has happened and what do I do now? Thank you for reading- Kane.
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Post by Craig on May 27, 2013 20:45:04 GMT 11
Hey Kane, sorry to hear - I don't know much about it but reading up it seems the cloudy eye can be related/ a follow on from white spot. How did you treat it? salt and elevated temps and /or medication?
I would go with getting your water quality back on track, maybe continue your treatment. Hopefully good water conditions and they will clear up ok.
Sorry I have little experience with this- never been cursed with the problem... maybe someone else has better advice...Good luck - Cheers Craig.
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Post by Kane on May 27, 2013 20:59:10 GMT 11
To treat it I elevated the temperature and got some medication from a pet shop which I am up to day 3/3 on but each day the fish look sicker (e.g lethargic, laying on the bottom, swimming strangely). The angels are looking particularly bad at the moment, I do not expect them to survive the night. Thanks for the reply though, any advice is appreciated. Thanks!
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Post by fisshy on May 27, 2013 22:05:46 GMT 11
I just read to add salt to help with gills an remove the carbon if you have any in tank an maybe add an air stone ... To many fish in tank maybe starving for air.... I looked up whitespot disease aquarium an found strait up wiki? I can't exactly remember but I think it said 7 or 9 or 11 easy steps to treat . Hope all ends well
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Post by fisshy on May 27, 2013 22:10:15 GMT 11
Looked up white spot disease treatment
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Post by Kane on May 27, 2013 22:31:08 GMT 11
Yeah I read through a few internet sites a couple of days ago. I took the carbon out and the water was very well aerated. I just added some salt where the fish are now so thanks for that.
I don't know why they're getting the cloudy eyes and lethargic behaviour now but I think I'm just going to pull the affected tank apart and empty & dry everything before washing and boiling it all to start from scratch again.The fish will just have to be cared for in the tank they're in at the moment for a while.
Thanks for the help.
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Post by dazzman on May 28, 2013 10:50:48 GMT 11
Some melafix may help also to stave off infection
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Post by Kane on May 28, 2013 13:32:12 GMT 11
Thank you
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Post by joller on May 28, 2013 20:06:05 GMT 11
ive never used meds for ich, you just blast them with high temps, most strains of ich can't reproduce at temps above 29 and die off over 31.
this info comes from a journal article researching ich in fish farms, they did say that although most strains don't survive over 31 there was a strain that went through a fish farm in florida that could survive temps as high as 34 deg
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Post by Kane on May 28, 2013 21:42:52 GMT 11
Okay thanks. Just a question... How long should the water be at those high temperatures? I mean how long on average before it's time to take it back to normal? I've already emptied the tank but I was just wondering Thanks.
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Post by Admin on May 29, 2013 1:10:03 GMT 11
As jolller said...
Easiest and best way
30 day treatment.
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Post by Kane on May 29, 2013 7:41:37 GMT 11
Alright thanks a lot everyone
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Post by guff on May 30, 2013 17:58:08 GMT 11
I had a similar situation a while back Kane, lost most of my scaleless fish in the tank to some sort of fungal infection that I think was Ich but there must have been a secondary infection too as they got "cotton like" growth and their eyes went funny. I treated the tank with elevated temp, a bit of salt and a medicine. I have since replaced the fish that died and everything was going well until I went to replace my pictus catfish two weeks ago and stupidly didnt quarantine it first/examine it closely enough at the pet shop, and noticed after I put it in the tank that it had whitespot so I treated the tank that night with malachite green (half dose because I have scaleless fish again) and turned the temp up. After the three day treatment I thought everything was all good, but noticed a few days later that it had spread to my clown loaches and bala sharks. So now I'm currently on my third round of malachite green and the loaches still have the spot. I haven't actually lost any fish yet, so I think I'm doing ok, just waiting it out now but getting sick of looking at a green tank!
Guff
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Post by Kane on May 30, 2013 21:31:35 GMT 11
Yeah very similar here. Started as an 'ich-like' disease and turned to a 'cotton wool' fungal disease with the cloudy eyes etc. I'm going through a similar treatment as well. Realistically it's quick and easy to over come but it's a frustrating and stressful wait as you constantly scan their progress hoping they're improving and and that nothing come back. Anyway best of luck with the treatment and thanks for the reply.
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Post by joller on Jun 2, 2013 9:43:19 GMT 11
at high temps i would wait until 10 days after the last visual signs of any cysts, at high temps 10 days is long enough for 2-3 life cycles of ich so you know they'll be gone
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Post by Kane on Jun 2, 2013 10:32:07 GMT 11
Yeah alright then. Thanks for that
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Post by superman on Jun 2, 2013 18:54:50 GMT 11
Also a good idea to siphon the gravel daily to help clear the cysts as they drop off the fish.
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Post by Kane on Jun 2, 2013 22:01:57 GMT 11
Okay thanks
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