moy
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Post by moy on Dec 19, 2011 21:31:06 GMT 11
Was having a look around a lfs today and relised how over priced there fish are. I wouldnt have the stunning fish and displays with out this website. So I would just like to thank Dean and the other adminastrators for this site and the time they put into it.
I also thank all the other user and breeders that I have purchased my fish off.
Cheers Mitch.
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Post by velvetsicklid on Dec 20, 2011 0:12:04 GMT 11
My sentiments exactly, i remember when i was spaztic over planted tanks and shrimp, Aaron and dean helped me sooooo much it was a joke. If i had payed retail, it would of been so much dearer. Me thinks we need to kick the society in the guts and get the meetings goin again
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Post by Admin on Dec 20, 2011 10:17:46 GMT 11
If you think LFS prices are bad you dont want to know what the wholesalers like Bay pay the breeders for the fish that finally get sold for $25....somewhere between 50c and $2. Ah but breeders like myself are just 'money hungry' bastards You volunteering to organise the meetings Drew? If so post in the society section. Mini fish Auction Maybe? You can also post in the NSW section of ACE as i have permission from Ged to do so.
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Post by Admin on Dec 20, 2011 12:19:13 GMT 11
LFS will always have their place in the hobby, they are no different from other retailers who sell the same products as the ones you can purchase out of china for 90% less. Without LFS the hobby would be back to the dark ages of the 60s and 70s where you had to grow and or make your own foods, treat your own water and make your own medications.
The sheer variety of species offered couldn't be sustained by the local populous so we are lucky to have wholesalers sourcing fish nationally and making them available.
Its a shame to have watched the aquarium trade in general skate a slippery down hill slope over the last 15 years, fish prices are not what they used to be, people are cheap and don't want to pay reasonable prices for rarer species and breeders are getting less and less per fish as time progresses. Just an example an electric blue when first imported several years ago went for a staggering $100 fry. The breeding of this fish has made it readily available for the hobbyist and possibly put this in the top 10 most kept species of Africans.
Something that has annoyed me over the years is the amount of species we have lost in this country. WC Yucatan Mollies were first imported around 1979-80 and are no longer with us. There may be genetic material from these fish in our bastardised forms of mollies available today from all lfs but no one saw the need to proliferate them at the time as they were easy to acquire.
Times are changing in the trade and LFS will need to flow with the punches especially when it comes to giving the breeder a fair $ for their fish, this is the only industry where the retailer doesn't support the work the hobbyists do for the industry and without hobbyists there will be no retail industry
my 1.02c lol.
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Post by scarecrow on Dec 20, 2011 18:49:34 GMT 11
I agree with Moy, without the help of many people on these forums, I would not have the great set-up I have now. Everyone i have brought fish from has been very helpful, and given great advice. So thanks to everyone who has helped me!
In relation to the costs of rarer fish, I'd be happy to pay the going prices for them, and try and help the hobby by attempting to breed those species, however I am not confident enough in my ability yet to keep those fish alive and healthy, and as such prefer to stick to more affordable species at this stage.
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superman
Tropheus
Why because I can!
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Post by superman on Dec 20, 2011 22:11:38 GMT 11
Well said.
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Post by joller on Dec 20, 2011 22:28:19 GMT 11
lol yeah dean i've always wanted yacatan mollies, settled for white sailfins but was a bit p-o'd that no retailer could sell me female sailfins because they just have a tank labeled 'assorted mollies'
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Post by Admin on Dec 20, 2011 22:33:58 GMT 11
True Yucatans are a sight to behold, i fondly remember them in a 3' tank in my bedroom as a teenager...in hindsight i should have kept them going but they were everywhere back then. I probebly have some old photoes somewhere of them with their dorsals touching and sometimes trailing their tails.
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yanke
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Post by yanke on Dec 21, 2011 0:38:30 GMT 11
hi all well i am about to show my age back in the day lol i started with fish back in 1974 and got in to the African Cichlid in 1984 but that was in the U.S. and i had it lucky back then my brother had a mate that was running African Import it was a wholesalers so i had it made back then but alot of the fish i get back then are not around any more(and i payed wholesale for them also back then) and the 1's that are around they are so over breded that there is no color left in them to what they was back then so if we can keep the fish and not inbreed them so much that will be good for all
and about the meeting we have tryed to get them going but only 2 or 3 will show up so me and dean said the hell with it why try no 1 will show up the last meeting we had there was only 5 of us there and 1 of them was the wife so whats that say people say yes i be there and then at the last min. don't show up and then u got food and drinks for the meeting well if u have 1 ill go and hope that there be more then me and dean and maybe 2 more there yanke
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